July 20th, 2010 
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www. therenegadehealthshow. com – This is a popular topic for debate in many food and nutrition communities. . . If you want a raw foodie, vegan, or even someone who eats a whole food diet, meat, eggs and dairy products are included, you will see this show. I walk about the types of vitamin B12, you can find in your closet, what types of foods are likely sources of spirulina thin, and where you can find yourself if you are poor or not! (I also the hippie-type to my desk to answer questions from a non-health issues as best I can …) Take a look. . .
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damn i bought cynocobalmin
100% raw foodist for life .
@budgallant i’ve been feeding my son a vegan diet thinking spirulina was good enough for b12…. well he has aenemia now. so you really think b12 is a toxin??
The only reason why vegans and vegetarians are sometimes deficient in B12 is that almost all our soil is fu**ed up meaning we hardly have any good soil with good microorganisms left. Plus we’re to hygienic about things which give us less B12 on our food. Gorillas for example eat the own poop sometime to get B12, though they do it out of instinct it’s not something we would want to do
I believe b12 is produced by bacteria in the intestines. I am not sure. Also, that it is recycled by the liver. It is possible b12 deficiency reflects gut flora imbalances. More research is needed. Anyone have insight on this.
So what would be some b12 recommendations for little kids?
I watched this video thinking I was going to disagree with what Kevin Gianni had to say, but i was wrong!!! It seems like a very honest answer on the subject. I’m glad he brought up the MMA levels and B12 issue because not a lot of people know about it.
To answer your question (a few years late lol)…. I did like this episode!
Have you heard about b12 lollipops?
b12 is only really used for DNA and cell division perhaps they do not rely on b12 for their DNA processing
@DerekChaunessey they have an enzyme which during digesting b12 will produce,we humans don’t have that enzyme,
Kevin, a bit late here but thank you for putting this information up. I have been studing nutrition as of late and I came across B-12 and it’s relation to raw-food. I was trying to figure out the solution and I found your vid.. Again, thank you.
Most Primates are actually omnivores. In most cases they get their B-12 from bugs that will produce the bacteria in their “guts”.
It is produced by a bacteria in their “guts”.
Primates, for example, are the closest relatives to humans. Apparently they’re vegans, or herbivores. Where the hell do they get B12 from? Maybe Vitamin B12 is not a vitamin.
B12 is actually derived from bacteria that is found in meat and animal products. after all bacteria love the rotting flesh of animals! Although B12 is hypothisised to occur in Tempe and Natto(japenese fermented soybeans), they are shown not to b a significant source.
If meat contains B12, where do herbivore animals like cows and many fish get their B12 from?
@clickswitchh
eating live food filled with sun energy gives us amazing energy, whereas cooked food enervates us. think of falling asleep after a meal, or getting sleepy in the middle of the day. the opposite occurs with a live food lifestyle.
Well, I was just watching a video from Catch a Healthy Habit where some dude was saying his friends who grow their own food, been raw vegan for over 20 years showed up as B12 deficient in a lab test, BUT…no symptoms! This idea of B12 deficiency is looking more and more like a lie widely believed to be truth, and it was probably started by the meat industry! Isn’t Tim Van Orden rawvegan, no supplements, kicks ass and takes names in mountain running? I don’t think he takes ANY supplements!
Hi Kevin
I think that chlorella is better than spirulina but I thought that only synthetic supplements we’re not bioavailable to the body and if the supplement came from a whole natural food source it is more absorbable (bioavailable)?
the best B-12 i’ve ever tried was nanoplex b-12 – pretty instant energy shot there
Actually a “whole food” is a food that hasn’t been processed. Hence there is “whole grain wheat” and “white flour”.
The insides of the animals have a system designed for the task, one can only try to simulate that. But humans get the side effects of bloating from their way of cooking it instead.
I don’t base my “beliefs” on morals, ethics or “spiritual”. I base it on natural law.
First of all I use no blender. Second if I could I’d let the fruit I eat ripen way before it gets picked meaning I let them drop first. And I always eat the skins of the fruit I eat, there is no waste.
Third, why one must compare humans to other animals to support their claims is a sign of weakness.
The human I do not believe is a herbivore and I have not eaten vegetables for around a month now.
You use hot water because the grain isn’t natural. But the animal can do this on their own.
… The point is that, while it may have some moral/spiritual/ethichal/or other such cultural meaning to you for a plant to be as close to its natural state as possible, that doesn’t have anything to do with what is right NUTRITIONALLY.
For example, herbivores eat leaves. They can’t digest the cellulose themselves, but have bacteria in their gut to ALTER the nature of the plant, so that it is digestible to them.
We use hot water to do something similar.
“A food that has not been tampered with in any way”… Which of the following do you consider “tampering”: Plucking a fruit from a tree, and peeling off its protective outer layer. Blending or mashing fresh vegetables with a machine (perhaps to make a salsa), rather than just mashing them with your teeth (much the same effect, btw). Letting legumes soak in water so that they soften.
Fruits taste different with peels, veggies taste difference unmixed, and legumes taste WAY different unsoaked…